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On the 50th Access to Excellence podcast, former FBI director Andrew McCabe says 'I don't have any regrets'

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Andrew McCabe said he has learned from his own experience that communication is one of the biggest challenges for leaders of large organizations.

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President Gregory Washington hosted the 50th episode of the Access to Excellence podcast. Photo by Cristian Torres/Office of University Branding

That is why the former deputy and acting director of the FBI, and a Distinguished Visiting Professor at 亚洲AV, said he so respects 亚洲AV President Gregory Washington鈥檚 鈥淎ccess to Excellence鈥 podcast, which published its 50th episode on July 11.

鈥淵ou鈥檝e got to reach people where they are,鈥 said McCabe, who happens to be the guest for the milestone conversation. 鈥淭he podcast is a great way to connect with a sophisticated, diverse community looking for alternative access to information. Dr. Washington does a great job bringing stories of interesting aspects of the Mason experience.鈥

鈥淚 wanted to be able to give students some feedback about the grand challenges that are out there that they can attack and solve with a Mason education,鈥 Washington said. 鈥淭hat was the real motivator for me for starting this podcast. I鈥檓 hoping to give them some clarity.鈥

The monthly podcast has been a showcase for the high-level talent Mason has within its faculty, and was the inspiration for the YouTube video series 鈥淥ur Future, Transformed,鈥 in which Washington interviews faculty in front of a student audience, which also gets to ask questions.

Both shows draw a straight line to the university鈥檚 commitment to diversity of thought, which helps students think more creatively and learn more effectively.

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Former deputy and acting director of the FBI Andrew McCabe was the guest on the 50th podcast episode. Photo by Cristian Torres/Office of University Branding

鈥淚t illustrates that Mason is always on the frontier of expanding our knowledge, and that you have opportunities here,鈥 said Abigail Walsh, a rising senior forensic science major said after an 鈥淥ur Future, Transformed鈥 recording.

Added Philip Wilkerson, an employer engagement consultant for , an 鈥淎ccess to Excellence鈥 subscriber, and a podcaster himself: 鈥淚t does make me realize how innovative our university really is. It鈥檚 just a great way to feel like I鈥檓 part of the community. I feel connected to Mason by listening to the podcast. I just really enjoy it and listen as much as I can.鈥

Timely issues examined on the podcast include Donald Trump鈥檚 indictment under the Espionage Act, the COVID pandemic from an infectious disease standpoint and as a spark for a mental health crisis, climate change, police reform, the evolution of the internet, artificial intelligence, and the war in Ukraine and its ties to Russian organized crime.

The podcast also examined the real story of the Pilgrims and Thanksgiving, Black dance, the reimagining of Santa Claus, and how the United States and former Soviet Union were once 60 seconds from nuclear war.

A conversation with Mason economist Tyler Cowen about his groundbreaking Emergent Ventures program is the podcast鈥檚 most listened-to episode. And episodes with Missouri Congresswoman Cori Bush about her activism, and Gail Christopher, an advocate for social change who is lending her voice to Mason鈥檚 Anti-Racism and Inclusive Excellence Task Force, underscored Mason鈥檚 core values of grit and audacity.

鈥淚 think the fields of higher education and the creative work of scholars, particularly scholars of color don鈥檛 get enough pubic attention,鈥 Christopher said. 鈥淒r. Washington鈥檚 podcast is a powerful tool for addressing this need. What I enjoyed most about the experience was the conversational nature of our interaction. I felt free to engage with Dr. Washington in provocative yet meaningful discussion.鈥

McCabe, who teaches a graduate-level class at Mason on the legal framework of national security, also praised Washington鈥檚 interview style as one that 鈥済ives his interviewee the space to answer questions fully with context. That鈥檚 what makes the podcast compelling listening.鈥

Washington said it been compelling listening for him as well.

鈥淭here鈥檚 no better education than hearing directly from the people who are experts in their fields,鈥 he said. 鈥淪tudents get that here at Mason, and there鈥檚 no better education than that. We call it experiential learning, and it鈥檚 a fantastic thing.鈥